There’s no rail for a bipod, but there are dual swivel studs. Caliber: .17 HMR Watch and you’ll see hits out to 160 yards (00:50), proving the effective range of the 17 HMR cartridge. No round failed to load, fire, or eject. Depressing it with the bolt retracted locks the bolt open. Read honest and unbiased product reviews from our users. Both Savage Arms and CCI are owned by Vista Outdoor. Once the carrier moves, the lug cams downward out of the way, allowing straightforward blowback operation. Your email address will not be published. in the receiver’s top underside (arrow). trigger pull. Thanks to then-new high-energy propellant and a modern, jacketed bullet with a good ballistic coefficient (not a misshapen hunk of lead from a previous century), the new cartridge was the first 200-yd. It features a delayed-blowback action. It’s no wonder that it functions, but that it does so consistently and at a bargain price—that’s the real trick. In response, the cartridge’s inventor, Hornady, not being a gunmaker, advised owners of .17 HMR rifles to check with their manufacturers. Savage A17 on the bench (image courtesy JWT for thetruthaboutguns.com). I had to pay close attention to get the magazine to lock in place. So far, it seems as if there have been mixed results, even with the new CCI A17 ammunition. The rifle was fired off sandbags at 50 yds., with a Bushnell Banner 3.5-10X 36 mm riflescope in Weaver rings. There are no iron sights included with the gun. Savage A17 butt stock (image courtesy JWT for thetruthaboutguns.com). So, was it a gun problem or a cartridge one? I bought one about a year ago, and I have really enjoyed shooting it at the range. Cost me $50 to ship, as savage doesnât pay for shipping to the factory. This is not a condemnation of the rimfire, just an explanation of the limitations of the case construction. It’s lightweight, accurate, incredibly reliable and fires a flat-shooting round that’s much quieter than the.17 HMR. The Savage rifle is a lightweight, accurate, and easy to shoot rifle with very little need to improve. In Johnson Model of 1941 rifle fashion, the stock flairs out around the 10-round-capacity magazine then tapers rearward of it. Then highly explosive priming compound is deposited in the case, the case is spun until the wet priming compound fills the hollow case rim and then is allowed to dry. I had left over 15.5 ammo and some 17 Hord, Well I was very unhappy with my rifle to say the least but also had my 22-250 so i was ok for hunting but very disgusted with the A17, one of the other guys ask have you tried the A17 ammo , i said no i had ammo to shoot, he said try a couple mags of his, well that was the answer the gun performed flawlessly , I was flabbergasted to say the least. The gun handled well, the stock’s ergonomics were top-notch for both bench and field shooting, and I found myself scrambling to find more and more .17 HMR to feed through it. I would rather just focus on my breathing and fire!! I have taken p-dogs out to 600 yards with Kentucky windage. So I read this review and the rifle in the pictures is the A17 PRO VARMINT and probably a hundred more than the laminate thumbhole stock version. slid out of the receiver’s rear. Not overly familiar … MSRP: $631.00 | Your Price: $548.86. They are significantly more expensive, but they look worth it. I too LOVE the simple bolt delay action. After CCI’s engineers saw the A17, they decided to upgrade the .17 HMR cartridge and optimize the ammunition for the rifle, thus CCI A17 was born. Savage trigger is fine when it works. You mean all semi-automatics? Savage 17HMR review and shooting with a penetration test using oranges and potatoes! The heart of the new Savage is markedly different, though. The host is shooting a Savage A17 semi-auto 17 HMR rifle in a Boyds laminated stock. Upon firing, the bolt wants to move rearward while the recoil spring is pushing the carrier and handle forward. Barrel Type: Sporter The interrupter lug locks into a recess (1.) It’s one of the few missteps on the A17. The rifle's Boyds Pro Varmint stock provides superior ergonomics and an extremely stable platform for the fluted heavy barrel. The gun was made to be an inexpensive target rifle, and it looks the part. bought mine out of the trunk of a car in front of a starbucks on irving park rd. It was also more accurate than the other two. Other than having too much ‘float’ in the forearm, it works very well when using a strap or a bi-pod. 17 HMR ammo (image courtesy JWT for thetruthaboutguns.com). more velocity and 30 more ft.-lbs of energy than its competitors’ average. After all, a big part of a rimfire’s appeal is affordable, high-volume shooting. This momentary hesitation keeps the gun closed just long enough for pressures to drop. Magazine Capacity: 10 rounds Two other possibilities for .17 HMR irregularities were bore obstructions (likely from squib loads causing a jacketed bullet to stick in the barrel) or case failures at the rim—rare but possible. The Savage A17 is an affordable gun at about $450. The stock has a 13.8″ length of pull and is non-adjustable. I waited 2 years after they came out to buy one. So, how did Savage do it? In its goal of achieving an affordable, safe, accurate, semi-automatic .17 HMR, Savage has succeeded. Thanks for the heads up on that. I bought the A 17 for a Montana P/D hunt added 2 more mags. The fire-control parts are mounted in a polymer housing attached to the bottom rear of the receiver—the trigger guard is part of this assembly, not the stock. That and not needing to diligently police brass for reloading. Accuracy, as has been the case with every .17 HMR we have tested, was impressive, with five-shot groups averaging a mere 1.09". It’s capable of Olympic level accuracy, is fun to shoot and a dandy small game cartridge. Well done, but I’m still on the fence between the two…. Also, unlike a center-fire rifle case, there is no way to anneal a case shoulder once a rimfire case is primed. This is a review and hunt report, with accuracy information from testing four different types of ammunition (however, we are only relying on three of the brands/specs of ammo, more on that later). I give the bolt handle high marks because it has a big, ribbed, easy-to-grip polymer over sleeve, and it cannot be installed backward due to lugs on its underside. When it comes to rimfires, take everything we know about the better mousetrap—which is the boxer-primed, center-fire cartridge—and throw it out the window. Perfect reliability with any round. Long cartridges with bottlenecks are not so simple. The steel bolt, left in the white, measures 0.90" wide, 0.58" tall and 3.62" long (save for the extractor). A hammer- and trigger-blocking safety is at the top front of the trigger guard. The Savage A17 is the only 17 HMR rimfire rifle in a Semi Automatic. If you would like all of the same great function as this gun, but in a much more attractive package, Savage now makes the A17 in two different laminate stocks. When the case is not fully supported, problems can arise—gas will find the easiest way out. I’m glad yours cycled with “any round”. I was really hoping for a wood laminate version of this gun and I bet I wasn’t the only one. Retail price was $380-something, clearance priced at $188. Do I NEED the extra 450 fps and 75 to 100 feet of range provided by the .17 WSM? Not only did the rifle have to work, it had to be affordable. like bond’s db5. This is the Ruger 10/22 model. Lift up on the cover, and it comes right off. Savage A17 groups (image courtesy JWT for thetruthaboutguns.com). Just won’t have them. I think Iâm moving on to center fire 17 Hornet, however. Receiver Material: Carbon steel The new CCI A17 ammunition is said to match the 26,000 p.s.i. Shoots great, and fun to shoot. As much as I wanted to like it I guess I’ll stick to .22LR/.22WMR/.223. REALLY wanted to buy one as I’ve heard interesting stuff about the .17HMR over the years but never owned or shot one. I think I’ll have to risk a .17 WSM bolt action (B. Mag). On the price, where I’m at the price of .17 HMR is $12-15 for 50rds and the cheap .223/5.56 that’s not steel case is no less then six dollars and change on sale for 20rds. Accuracy * * * * * We couldn’t believe a semi-auto rimfire would even slightly function after this abuse. Thanks for a great write up that skipped all of the prior history of the A17. Required fields are marked *. There is a single hook extractor, powered by two coil springs, on the bolt’s right side with a rim guide on the left. I’d call it my ‘SHTF gun’ and leave toy off of the beginning. So what happened? I’m just not interested in unsuppressed target guns. Yes, the 10 round clip does break in nicely, and, they are modestly priced (@ $20.00) for pre-loading before a range trip, but, the lack of recoil and the ability to take a second shot without having to cycle the bolt… Priceless!!! Some of my misgivings were alleviated with CCI’s development of new ammo for the.17 HMR that upped the velocity by 100 fps to 2,650 fps. CCI A17 ammo and A17 rotary magazine (image courtesy JWT for thetruthaboutguns.com). Necking down the .22 Winchester Magnum Rimfire (WMR) case to .17-cal. We are not firearms manufacturers, and we believe the firearms manufacturers are solely the ones responsible for determining if and how they should market and sell a model or type of firearm.” CCI, which produces hundreds of millions of rimfire rounds every year, including most of the market’s .17 HMR, stated: “Do not use .17 HMR ammunition in semi-automatic firearms without consulting with your firearm’s manufacturer.”. Ruger introduced its straight-blowback 10/17, a .17 HMR semi-automatic based on the 10/22 Magnum, in 2004. This has the Boyds Pro Varmint stock which is a hardwood stock. So making a semi-automatic .17 HMR should be simple, right? Been back to the dealer 2 times now and its going back cause now it wont do anything There is no bedding block, but the action is set into the gun better than many of the budget bolt action center fire rifles I’ve seen on the market, including Savage Arms’ own Axis line. The second school of thought: build an affordable good-shooting rifle that needs no work. Not that I mind, but we’ve been relegated to bolt action rifles in that time. Full length reviews of these scopes can be found on the G&S Online Product Review Page, as can Individual reviews of the Marlin, Ruger, and Savage rifles. Propellant and projectile are then added using high-speed machines. Why The Savage A17 Is A Different Kind Of Rimfire: First successful.17 HMR semi-auto rifle Delayed blowback action makes it possible for the AR17 to relyable cycle In this Savage A17 review, Jon R. Sundra explains how the first delayed blowback semi-auto action chambered in.17 HMR rimfire operates and performs at the bench. It fits me well with low rings, but most will probably like medium height rings, depending on your objective. A true luxury problem. The barrel is free floated, and then some. Ive had nothing but trouble with the a17,have tried 5 different factory 10 shot mags,every bullet,every round jams,ive had literally hundreds of emi auto rifles,never saw one that jams like this particular rifle. The recoil spring and bolt guide rod (it does both jobs) passes through the interrupter lug, and if the lug is not in its topmost, or engaged position, the firing pin cannot reach the case rim, preventing out-of-battery fire. you gotta keep an eye on those injectors. Accuracy results with both CCI loads, the CCI A17 and TNT, as well as the Hornady .17 HMR load, are shown in the accompanying table. The black, injection-molded stock has modern lines with three raised areas on the fore-end that aid gripping. The scope is designed for the 17 HMR ballistics, which makes adjustments easy. This rifle is amazing and dangerous! So here is how it works. The same way Kel-Tec made the .22 WMR work with its delayed-blowback/recoil-operated hybrid PMR-30 (November 2011, p. 80) and its CMR-30 carbine—through its own brand of delayed-blowback operation. There’s no need for that, and it’s a place where debris can get lodged while moving through brush. Savage’s B17 FV is a robust and accurate if somewhat homely bolt-action repeater chambered for the zippy.17 HMR cartridge. The A17 is made in Westfield, Mass., although some parts are supplied by vendors, and the 1.28" wide, 8.34"-long rectangular receiver is of 8620 casehardened steel. must be lifted off to gain access to the recoil spring (4.) Not impressed by this caliber. MAP thanks to improvements in propellant technology. Nothing worked. Length of Pull: 13.8 inches Nikon and Buckmasters came together to make it… My guess is that a 25-rounder from fellow Vista stablemate Champion is in the works. Short cartridges with straight case walls work best in straight blowback-operated firearms. I bought a thumbhole version of the A17 last fall. We tried another OEM magazine, but if it was anything but the A17 ammo it wouldn’t go. The A17 features Savage’s incredible AccuTrigger. This adjustable trigger provides aftermarket performance from a factory gun. In this case, it’s the only thing that kept me from buying the rifle. After shooting a friends Remington 597 in 22WMR I was skeptical about cycling on a magnum rimfire. It looks like Savage was going for a well performing, inexpensive semi-auto .17HMR. And, I can’t see myself cheaping out on glass- I’d want to stretch the round all the time, including dusk and dawn. New Marlin XTTM Bolt-Action Rifles Not that a banana clip is needed for a target style range rifle, I bet that just about EVERYBODY is gonna buy a couple- I know I would. Hmmm, no moving parts and no downside- no brainer. Barrel Length: 22 inches Many other companies have since added guns chambered for .17 HMR, but the real payoff for this cartridge was getting it into semi-automatics. Women On Target® Instructional Shooting Clinics, Volunteer At The Great American Outdoor Show, Marion P. Hammer Women Of Distinction Award, Women's Wildlife Management / Conservation Scholarship, National Youth Shooting Sports Ambassadors, NRA Outstanding Achievement Youth Award Presented by Brownells, National Youth Shooting Sports Cooperative Program, "V" Is For Victory: The Smith & Wesson Victory Model Revolver, Review: Springfield Armory Model 2020 Waypoint, NRA Gun of the Week: Uberti USA Wild Bill 1851 Navy Conversion, 5 Amazing Artifacts in the National Museum of the U.S. Army, Smith & Wesson Model 48: A Classic Rimfire Revolver, Review: Savage Arms Model 110 Elite Precision, © 2020 National Rifle Association of America. Prairie Dog Adventure with Savage A17 This video shows a successful Prairie Dog hunt. The 22-inch heavy contour barrel is set solidly into the composite stock. I have two new in the box looking for some PC person to buy them. At 2,550 fps, you are going to have a report (sonic boom), but the benefits of: increased muzzle velocity, reduced report and added barrel dampening (increased accuracy) of a suppressor on this rifle are too good to NOT do. I don’t particularly like the long safety blade on the trigger, but otherwise the user-adjustable trigger is outstanding. The Magic Chicklet Look below at the A17 bolt. A Savage-style barrel nut secures the A17’s steel receiver to its medium-contour barrel. So in this short time..3 times that’s not good …. I think that swapping out the Weaver scope base to a piccatinny and replacing the forward sling swivel with one would be very useful for most shooters. When introduced, we thought so much of the .17 HMR we put a single, diminutive cartridge all by itself on “the white cover,” calling it “The Little Cartridge That Could” (March 2002, p. 48). It is a beautiful rifle and one of my favorite rifles now. Almost as brilliant as Savage’s Accutrigger and deserving of great praise. The recoil spring and bolt guide rod (it does both jobs) passes through the interrupter lug, and if the lug is not in its topmost, or engaged position, the firing pin cannot reach the case rim, preventing out-of-battery fire. Very straight forward and I like the fact that you didn’t bring any prejudice to the table. “More than 500,000 rounds were fired between CCI and Savage, and every test was replicated at both facilities.”. Savage uses quite a few Boyd’s stocks on some factory version of their Mark II and 93R rifles with laminate stocks. And, those on the cusp could be addressed with a specific modern techno lube… Obviously, I didn’t have all of the information either. at least chief illiniwek continues to mock and insult sacred native american rituals. That gas has to go somewhere, and through a thin piece of unsupported brass was the easiest path. Clean lube clean lube GAAAAHHHHH! Any reviews on the Savage A17 ? I can’t see an A17 without a sweet Boyd’s Custom Laminate stock on it, not that it’s required for tack driving accuracy. The A17's got a poor trigger, worst part on the gun, but for 250.00 plus its just too jagged a pill to swallow. Hmmm, what about the difficulty of chambering a round, short cycling, the dual rear lugs? A rotary design, the magazine (6.) Notify me of follow-up comments by email. Savage did this to make cleaning the barrel from the rear easier. The barrel has deep fluting and is finished with a higher polish than you’ll find on most rifles sold today, especially those at this price point. At the range, the recoil of the A17 can likely be measured with scientific instruments, but it’s pretty hard to feel it. If you just want to plink, .22LR is dramatically less expensive (heck, cheap .22LR ammo in bulk is now cheaper than precision .22 airgun pellets). Savage had to deploy many years of research and development to come up with a Blow Back semi auto action that would safely fire the 17 HMR round. That being said, there are replacement triggers available! Then, press in on the rear of the recoil spring guide rod and lift it out to the rear. Glad it did. Get the 25 round mags they function great. Although the bolt does not stay open after the last round is fired, the A17 has a manual hold open located behind the trigger guard (l.). The fire-control unit (2.) But, there are those with AWESOME- zero misfire/feed- rifles… I’d never get that lucky (insert smiley face here). Literally tens, if not hundreds, of billions of rounds of rimfire ammunition have been made, and hundreds of millions are manufactured and fired every year. Feel free to send them to me. Weight: 5.6 lbs. It feeds from a 10-round rotary magazine that fits flush with the belly of the stock. Not sure how long they’ll be around at that price though. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. I generally don’t like the black poly stocks at the lower end of the market, but- the grip, layout and proportions of the base stock is actually outstanding even though it gets very hot in direct sunlight. Find helpful customer reviews and review ratings for JWH Custom Savage A17 Extended Skeletonized Parkerized Bolt Handle at Amazon.com. I like how they compare Federal to Hornady ammo, esp since it’s all made by Hornady, just pick one!! Exact same problem, had to get another magazine for the gun, works better. 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